FreeArc is becoming more and more interesting...

[Vacon]

... so I think it should get a real place to live in.
There are at least two different pages to get access to archives containing it with different versions (in .zip, .rar and .7z) and partly not compatible with each other
Bulat: would you mind to make clear which one is the right one and maybe link the older pages to point to the newest?

Thank you!

[LovePimple]

AFAIK My site links to the latest version.

[Bulat Ziganshin]

only 2 pages? i think it's not enough to really really obfuscate users

btw, a few weeks ago i found web page that was not updated more than 10 years! it's a bit more that my whole web experience

and it was page of UC2 compressor. what happens with Nico de Vries, anyone know?

ps: i will update old page. thank you

[LovePimple]

what happens with Nico de Vries, anyone know?

Nico de Vries

UltraCompressor II

[Vacon]

Hello everyone,

*errr*
Im quite sure in the next few days I will be carried out of this forum with my feet in front of my head...

AFAIK My site links to the latest version.

Im not quite sure, but in the zip-file linked from there the arc.ini - file dates from Feb., 21. and the latest should date from Mar, 19. and be a 7z-file...
Right? *shiver*

Best regards though!

[LovePimple]

Im not quite sure, but in the zip-file linked from there the arc.ini - file dates from Feb., 21. and the latest should date from Mar, 19. and be a 7z-file...
Right? *shiver*

Its news to me! I thought v0.36 was the latest.

[Vacon]

Hello everyone,

Its news to me!

I thought v0.36 was the latest.

Thats what I mean. But Bulat updated the coresponding arc.ini. afair he gave a link to it and that was a 7z-file
Ha! I found it: http://www.haskell.org/bz/FreeArc-win32.7z was given by Bulat in http://www.encode.ru/forums/index.ph...page=0#msg3056

But it isnt linked anymore, is it? I mean by looking at http://www.haskell.org/bz/

Best regards!

[LovePimple]

Thats what I mean. But Bulat updated the coresponding arc.ini. afair he gave a link to it and that was a 7z-file
Ha! I found it: http://www.haskell.org/bz/FreeArc-win32.7z was given by Bulat in http://www.encode.ru/forums/index.php?action=vthre ad&forum=1&topic=391&page=0#msg3056

Although arc.ini is different, there is no mention of an "updated" arc.ini file anywhere in that thread. Also, the date of ARC.exe is older than the zipped ARC.exe.

The following has been added to the updated arc.ini file:

;Multimedia files should be compressed using grzip algorithm:
mm = grzip:d:a:l:m3
mmfast = grzip:d:a:l:m4:5m
#x$rgb = mmfast
#x$audio = mmfast
1$rgb = 1x
1$audio = 1x
2$rgb = mmfast
2$audio = mmfast
3$rgb = mmfast
3$audio = mmfast
#$rgb = mm
#$audio = mm

But it isnt linked anymore, is it? I mean by looking at http://www.haskell.org/bz/

I dont think it ever was linked!

[Bulat Ziganshin]

arc 0.36 was released feb 22

in march i was updated this version changing only arc.ini file. the new settings should help to better compress MM files (using grzip instead of lzma), but now i can say that sometimes this helps, sometimes doesn't

about arc.exe dates - afaik, both are "1,674,240│22.02.07", the small difference may be due to daylight time offset, which is handled differently in zip and 7z archives

overall, both version are equivalent except for arc.ini change. in future, i will make both 7z and zip distros with the same contents

[Vacon]

Hello everyone,

in future, i will make both 7z and zip distros with the same contents

Thank you very much, honestly!
Its kind of confusing, when I (anyone) point someone else to your site, he downloads the zip-file and gets different results than me with the 7z-file.
On the other hand: if "different" versions co-exist, they could do so, but are better named different to better distinguish them.

Best regards!

[Bulat Ziganshin]

gets different results than me with the 7z-file.

who wins?

[LovePimple]

about arc.exe dates - afaik, both are "1,674,240│22.02.07", the small difference may be due to daylight time offset, which is handled differently in zip and 7z archives

No, this is incorrect.

Arc.exe from the 7-Zip archive: 21 Feb 2007, 23:19:20

Arc.exe from the ZIP archive: 22 Feb 2007, 01:19:20

who wins?

Probably the one with external MM compression!

[Bulat Ziganshin]

Arc.exe from the 7-Zip archive: 21 Feb 2007, 23:19:20

this depends on where you live. seems that zip format saves local time while 7z keeps GMT one

[Vacon]

Hello everyone,

who wins?

Winner -> arc.exe

Best regards!

[LovePimple]

this depends on where you live. seems that zip format saves local time while 7z keeps GMT one

Interesting! Vacon, what date/time do the two ARC.exe files show on your PC?

[Bulat Ziganshin]

nnote that these files differs on exactly 2 hours. this says that on your computer local time is gmt+-2

[LovePimple]

nnote that these files differs on exactly 2 hours. this says that on your computer local time is gmt+-2

Thanks for the information Bulat! I didnt know this.

Vacon, what date/time do the two ARC.exe files show on your PC?

[Black_Fox]

seems that zip format saves local time while 7z keeps GMT one

Seems true. My time is GMT+1. Zip shows 1:19, while 7z shows 0:19

[Vacon]

Hello everyone,

Vacon, what date/time do the two ARC.exe files show on your PC?

Sorry for delay, but my wife has caught an illness, so besides my "normal" real life, Ive got to (and want to!!!) deal with her to get her back in place! Priority -> non_plus_ultra!
Now I am at work, so please be patient, I will check when I come home (this evening, or at least Thursday = tomorrow)
Promised!

Best regards!

[LovePimple]

Seems true. My time is GMT+1. Zip shows 1:19, while 7z shows 0:19

Thanks BF!

Sorry for delay, but my wife has caught an illness, so besides my "normal" real life, Ive got to (and want to!!!) deal with her to get her back in place! Priority -> non_plus_ultra!
Now I am at work, so please be patient, I will check when I come home (this evening, or at least Thursday = tomorrow)
Promised!

Best regards!

Although I consider my computer to be just as much a part of my "real life" as my wife, or any member of my family, I do agree that your wife (or anyone else for that matter) has a *MUCH* higher priority than the computer.

[Vacon]

Hello everyone,

Although I consider my computer to be just as much a part of my "real life" as my wife,

Welcome to the club!

...has a *MUCH* higher priority than the computer.

Yes Sir, but that does not necassarily mean that I can ignore your question. I wanted to make clear that I noticed your question and deal with the answer when I have time. Because you are a real person too. So I have to show you my respect, and Im happy to see you waiting polite and understand me. Thank you!

Best regards!

[Matt Mahoney]

Nico de Vries

UltraCompressor II

Just got around to testing it.
http://cs.fit.edu/~mmahoney/compression/text.html

It is a LZ77-Huffman coder. In max compression mode it is right between tornado and thor with much less memory (3.5 MB) but a little slower. But I found the self extracting archive feature failed on enwik9, chopping off the last 21 bytes. Too bad because the self extracting programs are smaller even with the attached decompressor. Normal decompression worked OK.

[LovePimple]

Just got around to testing it.
http://cs.fit.edu/~mmahoney/compression/text.html

Good to see this old slugger tested! Any chance you could test BriefLZ v1.05?

[Vacon]

Hello everyone,

arc.exe (from zip-file): 22.02.2007 1.19:20
arc.exe (from 7z-file) : 22.02.2007 0.19:xx

Best regards!

[LovePimple]

Thanks Vacon!

[Matt Mahoney]

Oh yeah, here is BriefLZ.
http://cs.fit.edu/~mmahoney/compression/text.html# 4253

[LovePimple]

Thanks Matt!

[John]

i tried few times to works with freearc, but i dont' know where to get the switches i have a .doc with a lot of "????" but helps nothig i read the "help" of the arc.exe and i see:

"-mMETHOD --method=METHOD" wich method?
how many methods i have? witch switches can i use? how works the .ini?

I really miss examples and a "real" explanation how it works and how to use, looks a ffmpeg project, works great but the documentation it's 0

Thanks!

[Bulat Ziganshin]

i'm sorry but docs are still in russian and unfinished. it's why i never advertized it in english forums.

nevertheless many freearc options are just copied from rar. you may look its docs (rar.txt, because rar.hlp doesn't document all options).

-m switch has -m1..-m7 variants. -m7 requires 1gb of memory for both compression and decompression and slowest but provides best compression. -m6 requires 512mb and so on...

btw, you can use --display option to see mem reqs when performing compression
there are also -m1x..-m8x switches that use the same amount of memory for compression but much less for decompression. also decompression is faster, but compression is slower and worser compared to corresponding -mN methods

[Black_Fox]

A temporary solution to this problem